I don’t forget. I merely judge from the vantage point of a human in a human society. Dagmar got out of her last arc by being "not horrible" like her sisters and mother, and that endeared her to me. Now, she proves to be just as horrible by siding with Ranna immediately, and even turning in her true love without a second thought.
Then you forget, that she is _not_ a human nor is she in a human society
And the only reason she evaded her families fate, was because she was not in on the plot to kill the Caliph and _his_ family, she was still horrible
Again: the option this time was join the Rancid army (which so far is winning) or get squished by not-Zilla (remember the last lot that attempted to stand up to them? they are now their own funeral pyre and ash, those other elves would have joined them if not-Zilla hadn’t gotten hungry)
As I said, I did not forget. I meant that line to justify what I like, and what I relate to: what we as humans aspire to be in our civilized society.
I know very well they’re not human. But we’ve seen myriad times in this comic that just because someone is a monster, does not mean they don’t have redeemable qualities, and can in fact be more honorable and decent than many humans we’ve seen portrayed. Black Mountain itself has many such creatures, it’s one of the themes of this comic. Dagmar seemed to be a relatively decent person by not wanting to betray the Caliph or his son. Yarrick is even proving to be one, here, going against Ranna to try and save Dagmar and his people.
And Dagmar could’ve _pretended_ to join Ranna in order to keep from getting squished. She still didn’t have to turn Yarrick in.
You seem to believe that Dag knew about her families plot, but decided not to join? If that was the case, why didn’t she warn the Caliph or at least his son? She wasn’t in on the plot simply because her mother knew she wasn’t interested in the son enough to go along with it, just look how she was going to act once the marriage went ahead: she was going to use Yarrick (and her future harem) to produce a heir and then most likely off her husband, setting herself up as regent for her child
She turned Yarrick in because he betrayed _her_, not Rancid, she willingly joined Rancid’s army because she is a Flind
Not all ‘evil’ creatures are secretly ‘good’, even Arachne is still evil and would see the ‘Light’ Elves dead or enslaved
Even Arachne will help out those she cares about, despite her "evil" alignment. And just because Dagmar is a flind, that doesn’t mean she has to be an outright horrible person. Like I said, we’ve seen numerous "monsters" that have demonstrated honor, civility, kindness, love, level-headedness, and loyalty.
Dagmar expressed her love for Yarrick pretty openly, even when she didn’t have to. And going along with her family’s plot might’ve gained her and her people a lot of power. If that’s all she cared about from the beginning, why didn’t she go along with it? And I can use the same argument, if she wasn’t going to help her family, why didn’t she just turn them in to the Caliph? It obviously worked out better for her in the long run, power-wise.
I’m not sure why you’re so dead-set on defending Dagmar being a horrible person, but we obviously have different opinions about this, and that’s just fine. 🙂 As it is, though, I hope Dagmar learns a lesson or two, and that Yarrick makes it out of this, and that’s all there is to it.
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Well . . . that’s the last shred of respect for Dagmar gone. 😛
Why? For revealing a traitor to her new boss?
Truly, some of you just seem to forget what world they are in, or what species they are
I don’t forget. I merely judge from the vantage point of a human in a human society. Dagmar got out of her last arc by being "not horrible" like her sisters and mother, and that endeared her to me. Now, she proves to be just as horrible by siding with Ranna immediately, and even turning in her true love without a second thought.
Then you forget, that she is _not_ a human nor is she in a human society
And the only reason she evaded her families fate, was because she was not in on the plot to kill the Caliph and _his_ family, she was still horrible
Again: the option this time was join the Rancid army (which so far is winning) or get squished by not-Zilla (remember the last lot that attempted to stand up to them? they are now their own funeral pyre and ash, those other elves would have joined them if not-Zilla hadn’t gotten hungry)
As I said, I did not forget. I meant that line to justify what I like, and what I relate to: what we as humans aspire to be in our civilized society.
I know very well they’re not human. But we’ve seen myriad times in this comic that just because someone is a monster, does not mean they don’t have redeemable qualities, and can in fact be more honorable and decent than many humans we’ve seen portrayed. Black Mountain itself has many such creatures, it’s one of the themes of this comic. Dagmar seemed to be a relatively decent person by not wanting to betray the Caliph or his son. Yarrick is even proving to be one, here, going against Ranna to try and save Dagmar and his people.
And Dagmar could’ve _pretended_ to join Ranna in order to keep from getting squished. She still didn’t have to turn Yarrick in.
You seem to believe that Dag knew about her families plot, but decided not to join? If that was the case, why didn’t she warn the Caliph or at least his son? She wasn’t in on the plot simply because her mother knew she wasn’t interested in the son enough to go along with it, just look how she was going to act once the marriage went ahead: she was going to use Yarrick (and her future harem) to produce a heir and then most likely off her husband, setting herself up as regent for her child
She turned Yarrick in because he betrayed _her_, not Rancid, she willingly joined Rancid’s army because she is a Flind
Not all ‘evil’ creatures are secretly ‘good’, even Arachne is still evil and would see the ‘Light’ Elves dead or enslaved
Even Arachne will help out those she cares about, despite her "evil" alignment. And just because Dagmar is a flind, that doesn’t mean she has to be an outright horrible person. Like I said, we’ve seen numerous "monsters" that have demonstrated honor, civility, kindness, love, level-headedness, and loyalty.
Dagmar expressed her love for Yarrick pretty openly, even when she didn’t have to. And going along with her family’s plot might’ve gained her and her people a lot of power. If that’s all she cared about from the beginning, why didn’t she go along with it? And I can use the same argument, if she wasn’t going to help her family, why didn’t she just turn them in to the Caliph? It obviously worked out better for her in the long run, power-wise.
I’m not sure why you’re so dead-set on defending Dagmar being a horrible person, but we obviously have different opinions about this, and that’s just fine. 🙂 As it is, though, I hope Dagmar learns a lesson or two, and that Yarrick makes it out of this, and that’s all there is to it.
The lesson here: Don’t become your mother.
Take that, Dagmar.
Shouting demands at gods seldom goes very well.
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Alas, poor Yarrick. No good deed goes unpunished. Are there more topless women waiting off camera?
"Alas, poor Yarrick. I knew him well. T’was jester to the king and…"
What?
Oh, wrong story. Sorry.
Ah well, that's what happens when you join the villains. Just because you're "evil" doesn't mean you have to join the apocalyptic death cult.