She’d be a corpse in seconds if Lucas wasn’t there.
Remember this is Mrs. B we’re talking about. This is someone even the entire Drow kingdom went out of their way to avoid pissing off. And one ****(None of that please) of a barony’s captain is going to bring her in? Mrs. B’d bring Lili in in pieces. odds are far more likely Baz actually had the murder done and scapegoated her.
Fight goes like this "me and my husband are Dukes we out rank everyone in this county and are the only people in this kingdom the suspect would hug on site stay the @#$% out of our way and only talk when asked a question by us"
Here military rank may be "Captain", but what is her SOCIAL rank? This isn’t the way a commoner with any sense of self-preservation would speak to any Noble, much less a Duke!
The Baron would still be a subject to the King and he personally sent a Duke out to investigate which would imply not only a higher ‘rank’ but a more direct link in the chain of command.
If the president is on a ship, the captain of the vessel is still in charge.
Or if a general wants to go through a guarded door, the unranked soldier in his own unit can still stop him, with force if necessary. (If his orders were not to let anyone pass.)
Surr, they could go to the baron and lean on him with the kings mission, but that too might lead to repercussions. Because politics.
(Also about your comment below, a duke doesn’t outrank a captain more than a senator outranks a colonel. They are completely different ranking chains)
(As for ranks of nobility, they are mostly about bragging rights and who gets the ‘good seat’ at the table. In actual power a baron might hold more of it than a duke, even if they usually wouldn’t)
I had always heard that one the other way around: the highest rank is civilian; they can ignore a general or admiral. (Of course, the general can ignore ’em right back, so it’s really more of a wash…)
I suspect she talks to the Baron in same way and only reason she gets away with that is the Baron doesn’t have the balls to object (and possibly likes it).
Exactly, the people pointing out that Lucas is a duke are missing the real point. His personal rank doesn't matter, what matters is that he is here as a representative of the king. If he feels that she is trying to obstruct his investigation… well, that's why he brought some of the kings own men, isn't it?
I see this as in the same vein as many a Star Trek episode, where an ambassador travelling on the ship may have outranked Captain Kirk, but the ship was Kirk’s to "rule". Granted, Captain Kirk was more tactful about it, but it was a source of tension during many an episode.
Duke Greyfort may be a ruler in his own lands, but that is in his own lands. Out in the provinces, he is a representative of a faraway liege unlike the Baron who lives in town. And he’s the one who will back her up.
The Captain of a ship or Commander of an Aircraft has full authority and responsibility for the safe and proper operation of the vessel.
They CAN however, be told where to go and how to get there by a superior, in this case a Noble in matters which are their responsibility.
It’s up to the superior to know when to use their authority and not interfere with the vessel’s operation.
If a high ranking politician (or a Duke) suggests to the Captain of a ship that they want to make a detour for official reasons, the Captain had better look like altering their course to comply or end up in command of a rowboat in the palace pond.
On the other hand, if the Duke orders the Captain to "sail onto those rocks" for no apparent reason the Captain had better steer clear of them or end up in the dungeon or on the block if the reef doesn’t do the job.
In the US, the President is ‘Commander in Chief’ of the military, through Congress (up here, it’s not the Prime Minister but the Governor General although the PM exerts operational control, sometimes through Parliament) and they follow those orders, trusting the CinC not to try to run platoon level operations or give tactical orders to troops in the field.
The Gov’t gives the prime mission, the Generals are responsible for it’s execution and all the steps needed to fulfil it.
Watched a very young Sgt try to pull rank on a Capt. once when said Capt’s rank was obscured by equipment…
Same Sgt that in the same breath told me he’d have me in the Col’s office for having an open pocket…the look on his face when I told him that’s where I was headed, for coffee…with my father’s cousin..was priceless 🙂
Topped only when the pilot I was with shifted what he was carrying so the bars showed…
Last time I checked, Dukes outranked Captains by a substantial margin, this could be fun
If only Lucas wasn’t so darned nice 🙁
You’re welcome and I understand the sentiments.
The way I see it, you’re not thanking me personally, you’re asking me to thank my Brothers and Sisters who didn’t come back, the next time I see them 😉
We all took the Queen’s Shilling and signed the blank cheque for everything we had in return, some had to cash their cheques, I didn’t, but for 20 years I would have.
If you want to thank me, thank me for carrying a badge for another 25 years and listening to the whining going on now because people can’t follow the rules of society.
As to you personally, yes, I am 🙂 for the Queen’s Shilling service, and the 25 years after. Both are ways you have helped people, and I honor that, because you could have cashed that cheque in either position, as so many have. I mourn for those who have, and thank them as well. Many people do not want to give of themselves to help others, so…
And as for the people are asking why … I can’t answer for the rest of the US, altho i think your reasons are often in the ballpark. The reasons _I_ do are because of my family and friends – and friend’s families who have suffered because of their service. I’ve a few friends who served in the 90s who are still having health affects, or kids who are messed up health wise, because of where they were and what they had to deal with. And many who have PTSD, or family situations from having to move so much or be seperated or… I understand some people do get into it for the benefits or later career prospects, but what most people don’t see are the detriments that aren’t about money, and the costs. (This is NOT a slam against anyone, just that i’ve heard so much of the negatives overwhelming the positives from those who have volunteered). I’ve always thanked those who serve, militarily or police or fire, or teachers, etc. long before it became popular or poltical or patriotic.
And i won’t get into the governmental aspect of screwing over soldiers, because i could rant for hoooours!!! Suffice it to say, i agree with Pendrake, and i support the troops if not the wars
I don’t get this US thing with thanking people for their service, that does not happen in the UK at all. The way we see it, it’s a job with a salary and some benefits, and sometimes excellent career prospects afterwards. And it isn’t as if anyone is forced to take a job in the military these days, at least not in the UK or US. So what is there to thank people for?
I’m not trying to disrespect anyone or start an argument here, I genuinely want to know why this happens.
My theory is that it’s a response to how badly military & Vets were treated during & after the Viet Nam War, & to some degree an acknowledgement that these are volunteers doing a dangerous but necessary job that most civilians wouldn’t dream of doing themselves.
Vietnam was in no way necessary, plenty of vets joined the anti-war movement. Honestly I’d say that America hasn’t been in a war we had any business being part of since WWII.
It is something that started under the Bush administration after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, fuelled by the media. Pre-2001 the whole thing was nonexistent, and during the Obama administration it became a way of accusing others of not being patriotic enough.
Long before that…but you can bet that Tommy still sees
I didn’t mean to get so off-topic so fast, it usually takes more posts than that 😉
Tommy –Rudyard Kipling, 1890
I WENT into a public ‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, " We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ " Tommy, go away " ;
But it’s " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ " Tommy, wait outside ";
But it’s " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper’s on the tide
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap.
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul? "
But it’s " Thin red line of ‘eroes " when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s " Thin red line of ‘eroes, " when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, fall be’ind,"
But it’s " Please to walk in front, sir," when there’s trouble in the wind
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s " Please to walk in front, sir," when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Chuck him out, the brute! "
But it’s " Saviour of ‘is country " when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An ‘Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!
They should make a sequel comic 10 years into the future, where magic is a bit stronger and a young wizard learns with the most powerful mage currently existing. There can be ancient ruins, portals, flying squids, and Arachne coming back.
And again, frustrating that you’re acting like you have some kind of knowledge on this topic when you’ve already been debunked – before your first post – by someone who does.
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Oh I cannot WAIT till Captain sees their meeting with Mama Bloodhand….
Heh.
What kind of person does it take to arrest *Maula*?
This kind.
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Not her.
She’d be a corpse in seconds if Lucas wasn’t there.
Remember this is Mrs. B we’re talking about. This is someone even the entire Drow kingdom went out of their way to avoid pissing off. And one ****(None of that please) of a barony’s captain is going to bring her in? Mrs. B’d bring Lili in in pieces. odds are far more likely Baz actually had the murder done and scapegoated her.
Is this going to turn into a parody of those cop show things where the fbi and the local cops fight over jurisdiction?
Could be. Baz Hoggs is a parody of Boss Hogg from The Dukes of Hazzard, so maybe a full-on TDoH parody? I’m down for it!
Rishard addressed this in his reply to the former strip.
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or Richard. Him, too.
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oh well. Still want to see what happens.
Fight goes like this "me and my husband are Dukes we out rank everyone in this county and are the only people in this kingdom the suspect would hug on site stay the @#$% out of our way and only talk when asked a question by us"
Wise half-elf XD
Here military rank may be "Captain", but what is her SOCIAL rank? This isn’t the way a commoner with any sense of self-preservation would speak to any Noble, much less a Duke!
Thing is, though, it’s already been established that the Baron has jurisdiction here, and she is his representative.
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The Baron would still be a subject to the King and he personally sent a Duke out to investigate which would imply not only a higher ‘rank’ but a more direct link in the chain of command.
Jurisdiction trumps chain of command.
If the president is on a ship, the captain of the vessel is still in charge.
Or if a general wants to go through a guarded door, the unranked soldier in his own unit can still stop him, with force if necessary. (If his orders were not to let anyone pass.)
Surr, they could go to the baron and lean on him with the kings mission, but that too might lead to repercussions. Because politics.
(Also about your comment below, a duke doesn’t outrank a captain more than a senator outranks a colonel. They are completely different ranking chains)
(As for ranks of nobility, they are mostly about bragging rights and who gets the ‘good seat’ at the table. In actual power a baron might hold more of it than a duke, even if they usually wouldn’t)
Old military saying ‘the lowest rank is civilian’
I had always heard that one the other way around: the highest rank is civilian; they can ignore a general or admiral. (Of course, the general can ignore ’em right back, so it’s really more of a wash…)
In a feudal society such as this, Nobility outranks the soldiery, regardless of their military rank.
A general (with no noble title) mouthing off to even the lowest "rank" of nobility is a good way of getting executed.
I suspect she talks to the Baron in same way and only reason she gets away with that is the Baron doesn’t have the balls to object (and possibly likes it).
Diffrence between a baron and Duke is the diffrence between a lt. And a general
Exactly, the people pointing out that Lucas is a duke are missing the real point. His personal rank doesn't matter, what matters is that he is here as a representative of the king. If he feels that she is trying to obstruct his investigation… well, that's why he brought some of the kings own men, isn't it?
I see this as in the same vein as many a Star Trek episode, where an ambassador travelling on the ship may have outranked Captain Kirk, but the ship was Kirk’s to "rule". Granted, Captain Kirk was more tactful about it, but it was a source of tension during many an episode.
Duke Greyfort may be a ruler in his own lands, but that is in his own lands. Out in the provinces, he is a representative of a faraway liege unlike the Baron who lives in town. And he’s the one who will back her up.
The Captain of a ship or Commander of an Aircraft has full authority and responsibility for the safe and proper operation of the vessel.
They CAN however, be told where to go and how to get there by a superior, in this case a Noble in matters which are their responsibility.
It’s up to the superior to know when to use their authority and not interfere with the vessel’s operation.
If a high ranking politician (or a Duke) suggests to the Captain of a ship that they want to make a detour for official reasons, the Captain had better look like altering their course to comply or end up in command of a rowboat in the palace pond.
On the other hand, if the Duke orders the Captain to "sail onto those rocks" for no apparent reason the Captain had better steer clear of them or end up in the dungeon or on the block if the reef doesn’t do the job.
In the US, the President is ‘Commander in Chief’ of the military, through Congress (up here, it’s not the Prime Minister but the Governor General although the PM exerts operational control, sometimes through Parliament) and they follow those orders, trusting the CinC not to try to run platoon level operations or give tactical orders to troops in the field.
The Gov’t gives the prime mission, the Generals are responsible for it’s execution and all the steps needed to fulfil it.
That's the point, Lucas is here as a representative of the king, the same king that the baron has to answer to.
Watched a very young Sgt try to pull rank on a Capt. once when said Capt’s rank was obscured by equipment…
Same Sgt that in the same breath told me he’d have me in the Col’s office for having an open pocket…the look on his face when I told him that’s where I was headed, for coffee…with my father’s cousin..was priceless 🙂
Topped only when the pilot I was with shifted what he was carrying so the bars showed…
Last time I checked, Dukes outranked Captains by a substantial margin, this could be fun
If only Lucas wasn’t so darned nice 🙁
Lmao ty for the image of that! And your service!
Lmao ty for the image of that! And your service!
You’re welcome and I understand the sentiments.
The way I see it, you’re not thanking me personally, you’re asking me to thank my Brothers and Sisters who didn’t come back, the next time I see them 😉
We all took the Queen’s Shilling and signed the blank cheque for everything we had in return, some had to cash their cheques, I didn’t, but for 20 years I would have.
If you want to thank me, thank me for carrying a badge for another 25 years and listening to the whining going on now because people can’t follow the rules of society.
As to you personally, yes, I am 🙂 for the Queen’s Shilling service, and the 25 years after. Both are ways you have helped people, and I honor that, because you could have cashed that cheque in either position, as so many have. I mourn for those who have, and thank them as well. Many people do not want to give of themselves to help others, so…
And as for the people are asking why … I can’t answer for the rest of the US, altho i think your reasons are often in the ballpark. The reasons _I_ do are because of my family and friends – and friend’s families who have suffered because of their service. I’ve a few friends who served in the 90s who are still having health affects, or kids who are messed up health wise, because of where they were and what they had to deal with. And many who have PTSD, or family situations from having to move so much or be seperated or… I understand some people do get into it for the benefits or later career prospects, but what most people don’t see are the detriments that aren’t about money, and the costs. (This is NOT a slam against anyone, just that i’ve heard so much of the negatives overwhelming the positives from those who have volunteered). I’ve always thanked those who serve, militarily or police or fire, or teachers, etc. long before it became popular or poltical or patriotic.
And i won’t get into the governmental aspect of screwing over soldiers, because i could rant for hoooours!!! Suffice it to say, i agree with Pendrake, and i support the troops if not the wars
I don’t get this US thing with thanking people for their service, that does not happen in the UK at all. The way we see it, it’s a job with a salary and some benefits, and sometimes excellent career prospects afterwards. And it isn’t as if anyone is forced to take a job in the military these days, at least not in the UK or US. So what is there to thank people for?
I’m not trying to disrespect anyone or start an argument here, I genuinely want to know why this happens.
My theory is that it’s a response to how badly military & Vets were treated during & after the Viet Nam War, & to some degree an acknowledgement that these are volunteers doing a dangerous but necessary job that most civilians wouldn’t dream of doing themselves.
Words are cheap though, the US shows how much it actually cares about vets by their lack of benefits post-tour.
Vietnam was in no way necessary, plenty of vets joined the anti-war movement. Honestly I’d say that America hasn’t been in a war we had any business being part of since WWII.
It is something that started under the Bush administration after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, fuelled by the media. Pre-2001 the whole thing was nonexistent, and during the Obama administration it became a way of accusing others of not being patriotic enough.
Long before that…but you can bet that Tommy still sees
I didn’t mean to get so off-topic so fast, it usually takes more posts than that 😉
Tommy –Rudyard Kipling, 1890
I WENT into a public ‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, " We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ " Tommy, go away " ;
But it’s " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ " Tommy, wait outside ";
But it’s " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper’s on the tide
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap.
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul? "
But it’s " Thin red line of ‘eroes " when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s " Thin red line of ‘eroes, " when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, fall be’ind,"
But it’s " Please to walk in front, sir," when there’s trouble in the wind
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s " Please to walk in front, sir," when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Chuck him out, the brute! "
But it’s " Saviour of ‘is country " when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An ‘Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!
Don’t mess with this woman.
Well, the prob there is this woman is going to attempt to mess with Maula Bloodhand.
She’s fucking toast. Because it’s fucking Mrs. Bloodhand.
They should make a sequel comic 10 years into the future, where magic is a bit stronger and a young wizard learns with the most powerful mage currently existing. There can be ancient ruins, portals, flying squids, and Arachne coming back.
I don’t think Arachne is ever coming back.
We know that by the modern era magic still hasnt recovered
Again adorable that a captian who serves a baron thinks she has any weight over a Duke
And again, frustrating that you’re acting like you have some kind of knowledge on this topic when you’ve already been debunked – before your first post – by someone who does.
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