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Well, i am glad we agreed :-) . For me, most of the dismissal of elves comes not because of something wrong within the source material, but because of the exact things you pointed out: players treating elves like an excuse to act better than the rest.

I have gotten rid of one of the players who did this (I did not oust her ofcourse, she left the country to study in London). If i persuade the other to follow suit or play something else, i will be so happy :cloud9: .

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eveglass/Julie is Jewel, and IMS Torger is Diarmait. I haven't seen either around for a good long time.

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Hey, adventuring is written in the elven religion in DnD. One of the tennets of Corellon Lasrethian, the Mother and Father of elves, is constant change so you do not get static with age -which could be a problem with such a long life span.
They also have a god of change and adventurers, Erevan Illesir. Plus, if you live for centuries, you can do it all -excel at an art, run for parliament, fall in and out of love, raise adult children and then get around the world before settling down again to do everything all over again. You have the lifespan AND the physical condition. Remember, elves only show signs of old age at the end of their lives.

So i doubt elven adventurers have to be runaway toddlers. They could be anyone, travelling for a variety of reasons either elven -avoid becoming static, gather knowledge which is another of Corellon's tennets, get to know other races, pay homage to Erevan- or anything else adventurers do.

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Actually, IMS drow as we know them were the creation of Don Kaye. Gygax definitely carved them in adamantine after Don's death, though.

Morganna, I was referring to the badly played elves as being teenagers. It's a self-imposed delusion to protect your sanity. :hehe:

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On the survivability of Adventuring Elves-
I think that the experience gained would be a huge asset to the survival of the group as a whole.

Not talking XP and Leves here, but about going out there to see how the wider world really works. The stay-at-homes might think they know, but they really don't.
If you are trying to attract allies to repel a horde of Orcs or just shop around for a better set of pots, knowing how to talk to outsiders can come in handy.

Some tribes/Kingdoms might even require every young adult to at least give it a try, or have the teens compete among themselves for the "Honor", and take up a collection to see they are geared-up properly before they go.

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Ah, don't get me started with the underlying values of DnD concerning sexism and racism, this is the PhD I am working on at the moment. DnD tries hard to be politically correct but the game's origins were such that unspeakably ugly things have entrenched themselves inside. They crawl towards true equal representation inch by inch, and I intend to be there the day they finally make it :D .

As for elves, sorry if I sounded a bit preachy :-) . They are easily my favorite race, and I want to see them beautifully (and justly) portrayed for once. Of course it is hard to actually portray an immortal, attuned with nature, firstborn being, and this is a game, not a theatrical exercise, so...

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